Billie Eilish is an industry plant!

At some point the brother Finneas (who wrote and produced all the songs) realized that there was no place in the music industry for another pale, ugly Irish guy singing maudlin songs (spot already occupied by Ed Sheeran), so he had his little sister sing the songs instead. With the parents industry connections, the O' Connell children (Finneas and Billie) had an "in" that most musicians starting out don't have.

When you listen to the song's though, there's no "there" there. Very monotone, lacking in melody, basic production. I'm not seeing where Billie or Finneas are prodigies of music the way they have been hailed by the Grammys and the press.

It does seem that Billie is suffering a sophomore slump as all of her singles for the second album, Happier Than Ever, have flopped! Perhaps Eyelash will be the biggest "flash in the pan" in music history?

She has a big queerbaiting scandal going on and her babyish stans who need her to be lesbian are unstanning because she's dating a 30 year old man.

A lot of 18 year olds date men in their 30s. I give side-eye more to the 30 year old man (like, why are you dating a child?)

When did Billie ever say she was gay though? Gen Z is legit nuts, they make millenials look like buttoned up conservatives

Don’t forget she’s fat and ugly.

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Both are boring and are part of the problem in Highland Park, Ca. Gentrification has killed that part of LA. Industry cunts are THE WORST! Where I live they believe they're the saviors of LA and we need them to survive. It's obnoxious. 90% of them are fly over asshole which makes it worse!

Tell us more about the gentrification and "industry cunts" taking over California

She actually has had a relatively organic rise to fame. She started publishing vids on youtube about 6-7 years ago. They took off slowly, but steadily, over the years. She's only dropped one album. And it sold in the Adele/Taylor/Gaga range.

So, I don't think she's an industry plant.

Now, criticism of her music is another thing altogether. I love it. Or I did. But the new songs are definitely lacking. Feel too one note.

The best description I've heard about Billie Eilish -

"She sounds like she's whispering her psychiatry sessions in to a microphone"

She's overrated, the amount of hype she's gotten is incredible.

[quote]It does seem that Billie is suffering a sophomore slump as all of her singles for the second album, Happier Than Ever, have flopped! Perhaps Eyelash will be the biggest "flash in the pan" in music history?

It must be getting desperate - they already made her do a glam makeover, because her fanbase already tired of her unwashed hobo in a trashbag style.

What on earth does "industry plant" mean??

Oh Lana del Rey R10...as if you don’t know.

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Sorry for being dense. But a PR person can just sing on an album, and do what she's been doing with that much success? I don't get it.

What PR is she pushing? Just herself? Isn't that the same with any artist??

"To some, the term applies to artists who are plucked out of obscurity and given a new sound and aesthetic at the direction of their record label, then jammed down the throats of consumers through avenues like playlists and radio. Others throw the term around more broadly, deeming any musician lucky enough to have a familial connection to the industry or the good fortune of financial resources as a plant."

She had only been famous for like six months and they already had her singing on the Oscars.

Calling her the biggest flop is just silly

You're biased because you don't like her

The DL conservatives hate her because she performed at the Democratic Convention. OP probably prefers Kid Rock. Accusing her of not writing her songs is misogynist, no one makes that argument against male artists

She's underwhelming. Her brother looks like a dirty hot ginger fuck who likes to cum on his gilrfriend's face and fuck her up the ass.

[quote]Accusing her of not writing her songs is misogynist, no one makes that argument against male artists

She didn't write any of them, her brother did. That's not an "accusation", it's a fact.

I'm a Democrat and I think she's positively dreadful. Ugly, untalented trash.

What does she have to be so dead-eyed or ennuish about. What is she, twelve? Oooh, such life travails.

I placed first for three years running in my elementary school hopscotch championship, and I think she's negatively dreadful.

Because that is the level that this thread has achieved so far.

Her eyes light up when she wins a Grammy, R21.

Every generation has musical acts that the "kids" dig, and adults can't wrap their brains around the appeal. This is what GenZ brings to the table. I am not shocked or offended, just baffled.

Plus, yeah, she's unattractive, purposefully so. Her 'sexy lingerie' photo shoot, in British Vogue, was full of vintage lingerie, the serious kind with rubber panels to "sculpt", because she was too big for the cute era lingerie. She looked like an Eastern European prostitute serving a small town.

She looked so uncomfortable, as if she was trafficked:

[quote] When you listen to the song's

Oh dear.

She’s not fat, she giant bazooms that she hides with baggy clothing. A lot of naturally huge-busted girls and women do that to detract attention from them.

That said, I like their work, better than Lorde and Lana Del Rey (true industry plant)

[quote]Don’t forget she’s fat and ugly.

No, she has giant tits. She's not fat.

I call her "the Mumbler Heroin(e)"

Lana Del Rey wasn't an industry plant. She had a dad who made money off of the stock market later in life and was just a standard Long Island upper middle class Catholic girl in upbringing. Industry plant literally means having direct connections with the industry - such as the artist Clairo, her dad is some kind of record executive - that allow for you to get a leg up. People just say industry plant when they mean popular artists they don't like/with well off parents.

I do not care about Billie, but I'm chalking this up to an age thing. I'll never understand what she inspires in Zoomers.....

I don’t care about her. And I don’t mean that as a criticism.

She makes music for young people. I’m not a young person.

I find her mildly amusing as a celebrity — reading things about her during covid was a bit of fun now and then.

She’s just a pop star. We’ll live. Relax.

[quote]No, she has giant tits. She's not fat.

She's thick. Even big-boned Beyonce isn't as heavy as Billie Eyetrash.

I'm totally unfamiliar with her. Is this accurate?

Why do we hate her? Whose dick is she getting?

I assumed she was mildly retarded.

Her next gig is as a spokeswoman for Visine.

Incest? Hah, she must be getting some primo.

So the Chloe Grace Moretz of music.

[quote]She’s just a pop star. We’ll live. Relax.

You know, it used to be that pop stars gave us something that we all enjoyed and that enhanced our lives. It's not that much to ask.

Now people suddenly seem to be pop stars for no evident reason. She's Exhibit A.

She can sing and her brother has talent as a producer. I agree she is heavily pushed by the media in ways that seem unnatural. But she is far from the first or last industry plant. Britney Spears, Paula Abdul, Cassie, Jennifer Lopez, Rihanna, Cardi B, Fergie and Justin Bieber you could also argue were industry plants too.

I can't get over that the brother's name is Finneas and her middle name is Pirate. Their parents must be annoying too. I agree about the brother using his sister to get ahead in the music industry. Girls always get more attention.

I have a feeling she might go batshit crazy like Lauryn Hill.

r34 Yes, that is spot on how she is.

Britney, Rihanna and Jennifer Lopez were all classic examples of industry plants. They had no musical talent but were given the cutting sound and excellent pop songwriters based on their looks and sex appeal alone. Rihanna at least grew as an artist and took control of her music and direction. Brit Brit and J. Lo need their producers to direct their sound for them. Taylor Swift and Lana Del Rey were just rich girls that had money to get the doors opened for them but they wrote their songs and always had creative control. Nepotism will always exist and it's not always bad, Whitney Houston had nepotism but she was talented.

I would rather listen to Britney or Rihanna...at least you can dance to their music!

I don't get the hate for her. She's not revolutionary, but I think her music is more interesting than the glammed up shit that aged-out whores like Beyonce are offering up. She mainly resonates with gen Z and some younger millennials.

The point is the music industry has always manufactured stars who had little talent and used studio tricks to make them listenable e.g. Rihanna, Britney, etc. Billie seems odd because she has no charisma or energy on stage but she fits that apathetic e-girl look younger people like.

I don't know her and I have never listened to her song and I will never.

I don’t like this try-hard bitch.

If I wanted to hear a surly, mumbling teenager I would call my niece. No need to listen to Billie.

Someone please introduce Gen Z to Bjork.

As a young, twink musician/singer-songwriter, I can stand her better than Gaga but still far away from anything decent. The world needs more beautiful music, not any of this depressing electronic racket that sounds horrible. At this point I would suck old Clive Davis dry, f it meant I had a chance to bring back some decent music to LA with major success.

Oh R50, you don’t know what you’re talking about. Everyone knows that the most important part of making it in the music industry is you have to fit the suit.

R57 and in Billie's case, she doesn't even have to fit as her suit is 2 sizes too big.

She looks like she smells.

What's with the fake sullen expression on this girl?

[quote] You know, it used to be that pop stars gave us something that we all enjoyed and that enhanced our lives. It's not that much to ask.

MARY!!!

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Wow R62, she really is over now

Billie wore the same kind of corset for her Vogue cover that Caitlyn Jenner wore on her Variety cover debut.

She looks like she stinks.

'She looks like she stinks.'

Are you ten years old? What a banal, babyish contribution. Try harder.

She really does look like she stinks.

R65 Her music definitely stinks, but DL notices a raunchy biscuit when it sees one.

This Asian thing might get her cancelled.

If she does get cancelled over this, the Industry is going to be pissed. They've spent a fucking FORTUNE to get her out there and make her a star.

[quote] Billie Eilish is an industry plant!

Yes. And she's probably tied to The Illuminati as well as the microchip implanted in your body through the c19 vaccine. I knew there was something amiss.

The New Order is slowly revealing itself.

Mocking Asians isn't enough to get an A-lister cancelled.

But #stopasianhate is on trend now.

Mark Wahlberg beat up an Asian man as a teen. Miley Cyrus mocked Asian eyes as a teen. Neither suffered damage to their reputation. Billie, on the other hand, may suffer because Gen Z is very intolerant of intolerance.

R70 Maybe the industry needs to get burnt. We need a change in the music scene, hopefully back to a creative musical scene akin to singer-songwriters. This ugly faux-80s stuff is just boring and tiresome. Billie was only another nail in that coffin.

[quote] We need a change in the music scene, hopefully back to a creative musical scene akin to singer-songwriters.

R76 The Lennon Sisters might be available. They can collab with Jane Child or Courtney Love.

How come children of well connected people in the film/tv industry aren't called industry plants? Why is it limited to the music industry? I think it's a weird concept.

Alternative music can also be very popular. Alan Walker, who is an English-Norwegian DJ and record producer, received international acclaim after releasing the single "Faded", which received platinum certifications in 14 countries in 2015. His net worth is about $15 million. He is very popular in Europe and Asia. His Youtube video below has over 3 billion views.

r79 that song sounds like a hundred other songs.

R77 -- I'd much rather The Lennon Sisters over a whole lot of what's currently playing in the mainstream. And I'm in my early twenties!

Her sexy new lingerie-clad, platinum blonde look isn't going over well with her core fan base of fat, homely Brendas who originally got into her because she was "relatable." The new look is off-putting to these dumptrucks.

To me Billie was just an Avril Lavigne for the late 2010s. There is nothing original about her and her look seemed created by a label. That e-girl/e-boy fashion is just a rehash of early 2000s emo/pop punk/scene with some hip-hop bling elements too. She's a good singer though when she isn't mumbling that is.

R73 companies are starting to notice that twitter mobs don't reflect public opinion.

Billie Eilish is an industry plant!

No one can mumble as well as her.

She suffering from powdery mildew.

[QUOTE] We need a change in the music scene, hopefully back to a creative musical scene akin to singer-songwriters

Harry Styles has had huge success with his album Fine Line, which features those kind of songs.

Her lesbian fandom feel betrayed by her dating a guy 11 years older.

Those jugs are yuge!! If she were my daughter I would never let her cover them up.

Her and that rodrigo girl rise was so sudden that there was nothing organic about their success. Deff studio plants that won't last 15 years.

I wish she had some talent.

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You’ve obviously never seen High School Musical: The Musical. Olivia is truly one of the best actresses I’ve ever seen. And she’s a tremendous singer as well.

R91, Billie's rise was not sudden. She released her (best) song Ocean Eyes in 2015. It was a youtube viral hit. Her only album came out in 2019, but by the time it dropped she had released a slew of singles. She was a four year over night success.

She's already released four singles off her upcoming album. So she's been on the charts for 6 years.

No idea about the Driver's License girl.

Olivia Rodriguez can actually sing and belt out choruses and hit high notes, unlike Billie Whisper.

R79 Alan Walker is from Bergen, Norway.

I think when Billie Eilish or Post Malone post one song before they're famous, and it instantly blows up so huge, that is who I would say is an industry plant.

Bastards. Hateful queen pricks feel like calling an 18yo girl fat because she’s very well endowed?

She's got an old lady body.

Better her than another Beyoncé.

R19 People always use this argument against some singers, saying they're crap because they don't write their own songs... Whitney or Celine never wrote a single note either and no one says shit about them or questions their artistry. Now, Billie Eilish isn't anywhere near those two vocally and I'm not a fan by any means but she doesn't need to write her own music to be an artist or be appreciated by her fans. From what I've seen in an interview in her home studio and read occasionally she is very much involved in the production process and writes most of the lyrics. There are tons of esteemed music artists who don't write their own songs but no one cares and belittles them for that. It's just an argument used to attack some singer you don't like. Just be honest about why you don't like her. I don't like her music style. I don't need to go on about her not writing her own material or looks. This is usually an argument that comes from snobs who think real music is only playing an instrument and singing rock...

She’s a flash in the pan and is over already.

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